Wednesday, November 22, 2023

Charlie's Challenge 11.26.23

  Charlie’s Challenges: Extras for the sermon 

Learning Exercise: Trigger Warning you may not like Rev 17-19


Who is the richest person you have ever met?  


Have you ever met a rich person who treated the people around hIm/her well?  What happened?


Have you ever met a rich person who treated the people around hIm/her badly?  What happened?


What is your favorite story about a hero coming to the rescue?


Who was the most beautiful bride (husbands include the line ‘besides your wife’) you have ever seen?  What made her beautiful? 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_cVXdr8mVs

https://youtu.be/K-1kPgVowZI?si=Fs00T2ybE8QvaX6M



Sunday, November 19, 2023

Charlie's Challenge: 11/19/2023

Charlie’s Challenges: Extras for the sermon 

Learning Exercise: Fun Facts about the Rapture 


In this learning exercise we will learn things about “Rapture Theology” you may not have known. This is not a test but a fun way to learn.  Working with the people nearest you select what you believe is the ‘best answer’.  


In which century did the doctrine of the “Pre-tribulation Rapture” of the church develop?  

1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th


Who was the source of a ‘pre-tribulation rapture of the church’ understanding of Revelation?

A) Jesus, B) Pope Vennerus IV, C) Paul the Apostle, D) Martin Luther, E) John the Apostle, F) John Calvin, G) Margaret McDonald, H) John Darby


In what translation of the Bible do we first find the term ‘Rapture’?

A) Vulgate A.D. 382, B) Textus Receptus A.D. 1516 C) King James Bible A.D. 1611, 

D) Scofield Reference Bible A.D. 1909 E) New International Version A.D. 1978


Dispensational pre-tribulation rapture of the church was the result of the study of:

A) Hebrew O.T.  Scriptures, B) Greek N.T. Scriptures, C) Hebrew and Greek Scriptures, D) Latin translations of Scriptures, E) English translations of Scriptures


The dispensational pre-tribulation rapture of the church is the majority opinion of: 

All Christians today

The Roman Catholic Church

The Orthodox Church

Protestant churches

Evangelical churches

None of the above.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_cVXdr8mVs

https://youtu.be/K-1kPgVowZI?si=Fs00T2ybE8QvaX6M


If there is no punishment can there be justice?  Why do you believe that to be the case?


What effect would Revelation 15-16  have/had on Christians under intense persecution?   


Sunday, October 22, 2023

Charlie's Challenge 10.22.23

  Charlie’s Challenges: Extras from the sermon 

Spiritual Battles: The Enemy's Strategies


Key verse:  

I looked and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one like “a son of man” with a gold crown on His head and a sharp sickle in His hand. 

Revelation 14:14

Questions to ponder for Chapter 12


What kind of monster is most terrifying to you?


While promising much and delivering little the enemy of our souls offers a smorgasbord of sin. Where have you seen the greatest contrast between the promises made by Satan and sin and the actual results?


Why do you believe Satan has such a powerful enemy in our own hearts when all that he offers is painful and death dealing?


Questions to ponder for Chapter 13


Where in the world and history have we seen the Aggressive Monster at work? 


Who are some of the agents of the Seducing Monster in our world? 


Can you think of the Aggressive and Seducing Monsters might work in concert to attack the Disciples of Christ?


Questions to ponder for Chapter 14


Of the three messages by the three angels which do you think would strengthen you most in times of persecution? 


Can you identify places where the world’s system of self, pleasure and rebellion is failing and self-defeating? 


Do you belong to any elite group or organization? 


How does it feel to be part of a select few to which others cannot gain admittance?


Saturday, October 14, 2023

Charlie's Challenge 10.15.23

  Charlie’s Challenges: Extras from the sermon 

The Church and the World in conflict: Remain Faithful


Key verse:  

Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple. There were flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. Revelation 11:19


Questions to ponder chapter 8

It has been said that prayer is the most difficult discipline to develop in the Christian life.  Do you agree or disagree?  Why?


We have heard the cliché that Prayer Changes Things. Do we really believe that?  Our prayer life reflects our conviction about the power and effectiveness of Prayer. So what does your prayer life say about your conviction that prayer is profoundly powerful?


Questions to ponder chapter 9

How amazing is God's love that even those men who are in deep darkness are called to repentance by the self-inflicted misery of the darkness they have chosen? Where do you see examples of self-inflicted Darkness making people miserable but they are still unwilling to repent?


When we dabble with the demonic and the powers of Darkness God honors our choice. Where do you see our society dabbling with the powers of Darkness? Where is the church dabbling with the powers of the flesh? Is there any place where you are as an individual flirting with the power of evil?


Questions to ponder chapter 10

How comfortable are you with knowing there are some things about your life, future, and world you are never meant to know?  We say we can accept them in faith, but how do you feel knowing that unknown experiences of bitter suffering maybe part of God’s plan for you?


How would the full disclosure of the cost of being a follower of Christ before we became a Christian make us better more fully committed disciples?  Do you believe that the promise of a better like now results in followers of Christ lacking commitment to Him when times or tough?  Why or why not?


Questions to ponder chapter 11

No culture is static; they are all in change.  Do you believe that our culture is becoming more hostile or more accepting toward the Word of God and the Church? 


With prison and death a prospect that we as American Christians will not likely face soon, what forms of persecution are we most likely to face? 


What is the best way to respond to that attacks of our society on the Church and the Word of God? 


What practical steps can you take now to prepare for growing persecution?


Thursday, October 12, 2023

Israel, Hamas and the Lord’s return (or not)

Every time there is a war in the Middle East there is an explosion of predictions that this is the end of time and that Jesus is about to return.  Since 1948 there have been six (1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and 2006) and now seven conflicts between Israel and nearby Arab states (If you count Hamas as a state).  Not to mention countless minor conflicts both within and outside of Israel.  The response of many in the US has been to announce that this conflict is in one way or another the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and that Jesus’ return is just around the corner.  In case you didn’t know we are living in the last days, and have been since the day of Pentecost and the establishment of the church as recorded in Acts 2.


Rather than argue the various theories and interpretations of the Revelation I want to ask why we are so trigger happy to announce that every skirmish, large or small, is a harbinger of the “End”? So, rather than point to some esoteric interpretation of Scripture let’s look into our own hearts, souls, and minds.  Perhaps we will find a better way of thinking about what is going on around us and more importantly a better way to live in moments like these.  So, without any specific order of importance here are some of the reasons we are easily carried away by the hype.


We only have one lifetime of experience to draw upon and so it is hard for us to have perspective.  The battle with Hamas is presented to us in dramatic and vivid terms and it seems unprecedented.  But can you, without doing research, give a comparison to the Six-Day War or the Yom-Kipper war?  For the most part we only know of the Six-Day and Yom-Kippur Wars as history which seems less dramatic than what we can see happening now via You-Tube.  Just because it happens in our lifetime doesn’t make it more important.  Here is an exercise in perspective.  How catastrophic was the Battle of Cannae?  Have you ever heard of the Battle of Cannae?  During 8 years of U.S. involvement in the Vietnam police action (it wasn’t really war) the U.S. suffered just over 58,000 casualties.  In the Battle of Cannae the Romans lost between 65,000 and 80,000 casualties in one battle.  Our lack of knowledge and experience tends to make us think those things happening near us are more important than they may actually be.  Perhaps we ought to study history a little more.


Related to the first issue is our inflated sense of importance.  As a result of the fall, we all have to battle pride and our ego often makes us think we're closer to the center of the universe than we are.  We would never say it so bluntly but the statement, “Of course Jesus will come back in my lifetime because I am so important” is often our subconscious mindset.    The great Christopher Columbus was convinced that Jesus was about to return, after all, the world was undergoing dramatic changes.  Clearly he was wrong, but he was a bigger deal than you or I and the events of his day were more dramatic than ours.  


This runaway sense of importance is fueled by the popular and social media.  Narcissism is nothing new but social media has given it a steady dose of steroids.  All media outlets work hard at drawing us in and making us feel that we are more than observers; we are participants.  These organizations employ specialists to get us hooked on their feeds by convincing us we are a part of the narrative.  People are more skeptical, generally, than past generations except in the area of their own perceived competencies and abilities.  Not only do we need to be skeptical about what we see and hear, we also need to be sure that we are not pulled into an echo chamber for the purpose of reaffirming our convictions.  We need to learn to think Biblically rather than contemporarily.


We need to feed our skepticism about what we are invited to consume in the media because even in times of crisis money is a powerful motivation.  One Youtuber I watch from time to time has a near weekly posting.  While she addresses different subjects, the theme is always the same and the solution is almost unchanging.  Whether the subject is big pharma, the medical industry, banks, real estate, agra-food industrial complex, or the price of goat's milk in Siberia (okay I made that one up) the theme is always the same “We are facing a disaster and you better start preparing now, it is almost too late.”  She offers solutions, her online classes, in- person classes, publications, products or giving donations to keep her work going.  I am not saying she is wrong, but I am saying sometimes money is a strong motive.  In the days ahead, don’t be surprised if you receive solutions from people who will explain, for a fee, how this latest conflict is the expression of the end of times about to happen.  


Finally, focusing on apocalyptic scenarios is a powerful way to avoid uncomfortable and needed spiritual change.  Never underestimate the power of distraction and deflection.  In one church I served there was a lady who was a prophecy conference fanatic.  She knew all the latest theories, star-powered speakers and implications of the news.  Her marriage was a farce, her kids were distant from the faith and godly living, and her service in the local church was zero.  But it was a lot easier to contemplate the prophetic meaning of the water depth in the Euphrates river than to live life daily in a holy way.  If focusing on prophecy causes us to not live holy then we don’t properly understand prophecy.  


Is Jesus about to return?   For selfish reasons I certainly hope so.  But whether now, later or much later I have to live a holy life.  In fact, that is the only thing which I can do to prepare for that certain-to-come day.     


Saturday, September 30, 2023

Charlie's Challenge: 10.1.2023

  Charlie’s Challenges: Extras from the sermon 

Christ Amongst His Churches: Have Faith


Key verse:  

“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches”

Revelation 2-3


Prophecy is not about when Christ will return, but how we are to live until He comes again.


How does this statement align with Jesus’ own teaching about when He would come again?  (Acts 1:7)


Do you ever get this sense that there is a power behind the powers in this world?  Would understanding those powers be helpful in planning out our lives, responses and reactions?


In Rev. 1:9, John links suffering, the KIngdom, and perseverance.  What might happen if one of those three were to be absent from the life of a disciple?


Before we can be comforted by Jesus we must first have a godly fear of HIm.  How are these two linked? What might happen if we have fear but not comfort?  What might happen if we have comfort, or familiarity, but not fear of Him?


Of the seven churches addressed in chapters 2-3 only two were given no criticism.  What were their individual distinguishing characteristics?  Of the five churches that need to improve, which one do you think is most represented in American Christianity today?  Why?  Which  of Christ’s compliments did you find most surprising?  


Three areas of our discipleship need our specific attention; our working for the Kingdom, our personal holiness, our perseverance.  How are you doing in each of these areas?


Links

Perhaps the best study on the book of Revelations.  This is a classic study suitable for every generation of the church.

https://www.amazon.com/More-Than-Conquerors-Interpretation-Revelation/dp/0801018404/ref=sr_1_1?crid=257B6Z587HH8Q&keywords=more+than+conquerors+by+william+hendriksen&qid=1696102423&sprefix=more+than+con%2Caps%2C285&sr=8-1


A short debate about Postmillennialism and Amillennialism

https://youtu.be/-0Ng0-Uf_bw?si=Wl3W_y2fb90ESlBP


Use this link for a full study of Revelation https://the-apocalypse-and-the-disciple.blogspot.com


Sunday, September 24, 2023

Charlie's Challenge: 9.24.23

  Charlie’s Challenges: Extras from the sermon 

Faithful in the Long Haul


Key verse:  

“Today if you hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts, as when they provoked me.”

 Hebrews 3:15


Texts of the day Numbers 13-14, Joshua 14:9-15


What does the story of the 10 unfaithful spies tell you about human nature and herd mentality?


Did the people of Israel see enough to have faith?  If not, would there ever be enough?


Did God’s sentence on the people for 40 years of wandering seem too harsh, not harsh enough, or about right?  Why do you say that?


What is your reaction to God killing the ten unfaithful spies?  What does that tell you about leadership?


What most impresses you about Caleb?


Of the three character traits we see in Caleb, (1-faith doesn’t happen in a flash, 2-faith wants the big challenge, 3-faith is humble) which one do you most need to work on this week?  What about long term?


Think about the prayer, “Lord, what do you want to do through me?  How is that like or unlike what you are praying now?  



Friday, September 22, 2023

Trigger warning: your life maybe pathetic.

 Go to Pretend Land so you can feel good about your pathetic life.


Perhaps you have received an ad for a portrait in which you are portrayed as someone you are not.  In short, you send photo(s) of yourself along with your payment and the vendor will produce an AI generated portrait (framing is extra) in which you will appear as something you are not.  Want to be a mermaid? Gotcha covered.  How about an 18th century royalty?  No problem.  Maybe you are more into cowboys, Indians, pharaohs, knights, you name it you can have a picture of you being someone you are not.   


I suppose this is not so different from the dress-up photo booth at tourist attractions like Six Flags.  But this is at a whole new level, reflects a cultural shift and for teens the marketing angle is more insidious. If you want one of these, get ready to drop about $100, about what it would take to sponsor a child via a Christian mission for 2-3 months.  Of course the price could go up depending on the size of your ego, err I mean portrait, and framing cost.  But after all who needs only one of these.  The producers will tell you that these are great gifts and everyone in your family would like one.  Besides, who has only one heroic fantasy about themselves?  You can order your portrayal as a pirate, a viking, a mythological god and Ken or Barbie.  Excuse me while I go and throw up.


I think this represents a cultural shift from real heroic lives towards a pretend, heroic fantasy completely disconnected from reality.  I have in my memory and possession heroic pictures of my dad.  He is not a renaissance poet, he is standing on a makeshift scaffolding painting a church building. He is laying railroad tracks for a church camp that refurbished train cars for cabins.  There is one of my mom on what felt like night 50 of a 5 day VBS.  I have heroic pictures of my sons-in-law making a lifelong commitment to my daughters.  I have one of my son swearing to protect and defend our Constitution.  I have pictures of my exhausted daughters having just given birth and all that means.  I cannot tell you all the pictures I have of my wife being heroic, none of which involve her pretending to be a fairy, nymph or witch.  My point is that as we have drifted further and further into a narcissistic, self-centered, soft, shallow, virtual reality we are losing our ability to be selfless and authentically heroic.  These AI portraits are not the only expression.  In Gen-X, Y, and Z this fake hero status is also pursued in video games. “This game is beyond you” one ad tells me.  Okay stop then stop bothering me with your stupid ad.  “My life’s quest is to become a “Level 99 Commander in Zombiezapper?”  Pathetic!  Beyond that, it is my opinion (that is all that it is) that one of the pulls of online porn is the heroic desire. You may be ugly as a bowling shoe, but in porn world you are desired by the exotic and exciting person on the screen. As a result, we are trying to satisfy our longing for the heroic in our lives by fantasy heroism.  It is all dehumanizing and frankly it fulfills the desires of the demonic to degrade the apex of God’s creation.  


Perhaps most concerning is that AI photo companies are marketing these products to teens as a way to improve their self-esteem.  The possible cross-pollination of AI and transgenderism is scary.  “You feel like you are a boy inside? See yourself in these heroic male roles.”  “Do you think you would be happier as a girl?  Print yourself as a pop music diva and see how wonderful you feel.”  Powerful tools can do so much more than weak ones.  A plastic butter knife is nothing compared to an ax.  Tech is a powerful tool, but we must wield it well. We cannot leave the wielding of this tool to children any more than we would turn a kid lose with a chainsaw.  Children stand no chance against evil people with powerful tools.  The only chance a kid has is for Godly adults to stand between kids and danger.  


So, what do we do?  I have three suggestions.

#1 Let’s stop living in fantasy worlds of heroism.  I am advocating a vigorous life.  Do something that is so heroic that if a picture is made it doesn’t need AI enhancement.  Maybe it is a short-term mission trip, taking up a family sport, engaging in real and meaningful activities with boys and girls so that as they grow into men and women, they will have a point of reference of a real heroic life.

#2 Let’s stop being hypocritical.  One reason kids reject their parents’s values, faith and worldview is because what they hear and what they see are different.  The evidence is clear that the most certain way for a father to guarantee his children will not be believers is to tell them it is important and that they should go to church with their mom while he stays home.  If we want our kids to have a vigorous life, then our own life (that doesn’t include them) must be vigorous.

#3 Let’s go back to the analogy of the butter knife and the ax.  Do something heroic with the virtual devices that foster an artificial heroic life, like chop them up with your ax.  I use but hate tech; I work with it more than I like.  One of my favorite pictures is when I had a laptop give me the blue screen of death and I put an arrow right in the middle of the screen.  Don’t wait to find something heroic to do and then trash your tech.  If your tech is a toy, trash it first and then fill that void with a real and heroic life.  


This afternoon I have spent about three hours typing and reading online, so I will go now and do something real. I challenge you to do the same.  


Thursday, September 7, 2023

Making Jesus Happy

I am on the road this week and so this edition is written in a bit of a hurry and without the usual efforts of proofreading, Please forgive the errors you find.  


What Makes Jesus Happy?


The middle of Luke 10 has sort of an enigma right in the middle.  The chapter begins with the 72 being sent out on the preaching/miracle tour.  When they return from the tour they are amazed and report to Jesus.  “Lord, even the demons were subject to us in Your name.” v. 17  The disciples were operating at a pretty high level of spiritual warfare.  This is pretty heady stuff.  The disciples were in awe of what the name of Jesus was going through them.  I can imagine that there was quite the buzz among the teams as they got back together.  


But Jesus tells them that walking “on snakes and scorpions” and having power over all the powers of the enemy is not the occasion for joy.  Rather, the reason for rejoicing is that their names are recorded in Heaven.  We can buy into that, our salvation is greater than even the most remarkable miracle.  After all, casting out demons in this life is rather pointless if we are doomed to spend eternity with these same demons separated from God for all eternity. 


Then comes the enigma, a verse about which I have never heard a sermon, teaching or lesson.  “At that very time He rejoiced greatly in the Holy Spirit,...” v. 21.  What does that mean?  I looked at a number of commentaries, none of which were hyper specific.  All three persons of the Godhead are present here, the Son having joy in the Holy Spirit speaks to the Father.  I don’t think we can be very specific since our limited minds are not capable of comprehending the vast, nuanced and complex relationships within the Trinity. But there is at least one thing this passage clearly shows us.    


In context Jesus tells the disciples how great it is that they are seeing what they are seeing.  It is so grand that prophets and kings of the past wanted to see these things but didn’t get to.  These things are not for the intellectual elites, in fact it is hidden from them.  As if to prove the point the intellectual lawyer asks Jesus a question which leads to the parable of the Good Samaritan.  It is really critical that as we read this passage and hear these stories we do so in the whole context.  


Getting back to our original question: “What makes Jesus Happy?”  What gets Jesus juiced up, pumped up, besides Himself with ecstasy? It is people having their names recorded in Heaven and that reality working itself out in daily living, from high levels of spiritual warfare to simple acts of kindness.  Great worship services, fantastic teaching or sermons, great buildings are all fine but they are at best secondary.  


So whatever is that which gets Jesus juiced up, ought to be that which is a priority in my life as a disciple.  Forgive me if this is too familiar but I want to do that which will cause Jesus to come running toward me for a big high ten chest bump.  I want to make Jesus Happy.


Sunday, September 3, 2023

Charlie's Challenges 9/3/24

 Charlie’s Challenges: Extras from the sermon 

The Makings of a Great Church


Memory verse:  

 “...and the name of the Lord Jesus was being magnified”

 Acts 19:17


Text of the day, Acts 19:9-20


Ephesus was described as a combination of the money of New York City, the debauchery of Las Vegas, and the crime of Chicago.  What do you believe are the most significant characteristics of our community?   How is that an opportunity for ministry?  


If you were going to plant a church in a difficult place and you were to do it with your small group, what would you want to add to your small group and what would you need to drop?


The Christian faith led to a riot in Ephesus.  Where might the Christian faith create conflict in our society that could lead to excited emotions and even hostility?


Being highly flexible in operational issues is important to be effective in ministry.  Where might we be less flexible than we ought to be?


Do you believe the American church places too much emphasis on church buildings?


When God is the one building the church, He will get the credit.  In what ways do we try to build the church in our own powers or abilities?


A church that harbors unholiness will not prosper.  Why would a church allow unholiness to be a part of its life?


Friday, September 1, 2023

Time for a New Transition?

Over the last few weeks I have, sporadically, looked at major transitions in the history of the church.  Each of these transitions have been filled with dangers and pregnant with opportunities.  These major transitions don’t occur very often, but it has been a long time since we have had one of those transitions and perhaps a new one is on the way.  I certainly hope so.

The last major transition of the church was the Protestant Reformation.  To a great degree we have not changed much since the Reformation.  Someone said that in the Protestant Reformation the center of worship moved from the “altar and the mass” to the “pulpit and the Bible”. I have wondered if the seeker-driven church wasn’t an attempt to move the center of worship from the “pulpit and the Bible” to the “mic-stand and the video screen”.  I suppose we will have to wait for future historians and people much smarter than me to confirm or reject that theory.  However, I hope the next transition of the church is on the way.  Like the previous transitions it will be difficult.  In fact, a lot of stuff we hold dear will die in this transition. I am in no way making any claim to being an instigator of this transition.  I am simply observing what is and what might be happening and am hopeful for a better future for the church.  I think it might be easiest to see this transition by looking at some micro transitions that are possible and perhaps will soon be necessary. 

From consumers to sacrificers.  The first and most important transition will need to be from consumers to sacrificers.  On a facebook page about what is happening in our community someone recently posted that they were new in town and wanted to know if there were any churches with a youth group for their aged children.  The comment section exploded with recommendations.  With almost no variation every comment said the same thing. “Our church has a great youth group that has more fun and activities than anyone else.”  The fawning over the new family and the praise for the great times to be had were overwhelming.  No one posted, “If you come to our church you and your family will be asked to die to self, live for Christ and serve Him and His bride.”  In our attempts to grow attendance for our weekly service we have focused on producing a product for consumption.  As a result we have attracted and trained consumers who are almost incapable of sacrifice.  I believe it is time for us to return to the pattern we see in our Lord and tell people if you want to be a part be prepared to sacrifice all for Christ.

From relevant to theological.  One of the ways we have tried to attract crowds and inadvertently created consumers was by trying to be relevant.  We told the consumers that if they would come to our services they would hear teaching that was relevant to real life.  We offered teaching on subjects where people had felt needs, marriage, family, finance, to name a few.  We did a pretty good job of helping people build a nice life.  We helped them build this life on a foundation of sand.  For example, after a sermon on grace, a man who had been attending the church for years told me he had never heard that we are saved by grace and not our good deeds.  Survey after survey indicate that those who attend services regularly know less about the Christian faith than church attenders in past generations.  We don’t need to be pushing Bible trivia, “Who was the left-handed judge?”  But the core issues of the faith.  I think it is time for us to transition and return to preaching, teaching and training people to think correctly theologically.  Out of that we will find people will learn how to live.

From the concert to the conversation.  Mega churches put on great concerts every weekend.  Wannabe mega churches put on wannabe concerts every weekend.  Please do not think I am attempting to disparage those who lead songs at church.  Nevertheless, we strive for success with a great praise band that will, we hope, draw a crowd.  But very few churches will have the capacity to put on a great show each week.  Even if your congregation is especially great at music there will always be another church that will do it better.   Beyond that I can find amazing music on-line that has better production value than what you produce and that I can tailor to my exact wants and wishes.  (How good are you at Gregorian chants?) With the rise of the seeker- driven church there has been a corresponding decline in what used to be referred to as “calling”.  Once upon a time, “calling" was the practice of ministers, elders, deacons and various church members going to talk with someone about their life and spiritual conditions and concerns.  That has all but disappeared.  Some churches have attempted to fill this niche with small groups.  But some conversations and some confrontations cannot be done in a small group.  If your church can’t produce a fantastic concert each weekend the only option to promote loyalty is conversations, heart to heart, face to face conversations.   I think it is time we recognize praise bands for what they are, a misguided fad, and shift from trying to have a concert to trying to have conversations.


From anonymous to known.  Much of the damage caused to the church in the seeker- driven movement was the result of a well-intentioned bad idea, namely making a point of allowing people to be anonymous.  Churches have become apologetic about asking for contact information.  Some keep the lights down low so no one can see anyone else expressing themselves in worship.  Church is almost treated like A.A., in which you never move beyond a first name basis. The responsibility for any progression or growth in intimacy with believers is solely the responsibility of the non-Christian.  We have trained people to be resistant to being known, so much so, that I believe this will be the hardest transition to make.  In nearly a perfect opposite of the great commission we tell people “come to church and if you hop through the right hoops we will talk with you about Jesus.”   I do recall the bad old days of asking guests to stand up and “introduce themselves to the church”.  No one is suggesting we go back to that bad idea.  I do think it is time that we recognize when someone comes to a church service it is because they realize they are in need in some way and they think the church has Someone who can help.  Instead of imposing anonymity on people let’s go out of our way to tell them about the One we love.


From drawing a crowd to making disciples.  Deny it all we want, and with all the cliches to the contrary, we measure church success in terms of numbers in the audience.  Every year Outreach magazine lists the top 100 churches in the US.  While these churches may or may not produce disciples, which is not something easily measured, if it is measurable at all, disciple making is not part of the top 100 matrix.  Measuring is so much a part of our culture and nature we can’t help it.  We love to measure and compare.  In baseball it can be ERA or batting average, in basketball 3-point percentage or rebounds per game, in football it is yards per carry or interception to TD ratio, church has its  own set of numbers.  I don’t like it, but if you get three preachers together their conversation will turn to attendance and programs.  We love numbers and what you love you pursue and get.  Do you realize that with only two exceptions the largest church in US history from 1497 (when John Cabot discovered continental America) until the late 1970’s only two churches would even be in the largest 100 churches today.  Since 1980 the number of mega churches has exploded, but during that time the practices of the faith have been in slow and steady decline.  This most difficult of all transitions is to move from attracting crowds to making disciples.  It will require the rethinking and reworking of almost every part of the American church culture.  But I believe we have no option. If we don’t shift to making disciples who make disciples within a couple of generations there will hardly be a church left to attempt any transition.  


Some might presume that I am advocating a return to the 1950s-1970’s style of ministry.  Absolutely not!  The seeker movement was a good heart attempt to correct a problem within the church.  What if we returned the style, forms, practices and faith of the early church.  What if we went back to the first and second century church?  That church grew exponentially and in the face of powerful opposition.  What did they do and how did they do it?  Let’s try to transition to that.


Sunday, August 27, 2023

Charlie's Challenges: 8/27/23

Charlie’s Challenges: Extras from the sermon 

God’s Plan for Every Disciple

Memory verse:  

We will devote ourselves to prayer and to the ministry of the word.”

 Acts 6:4


Text of the day Acts 6:1-7


Can you think of a time when you felt very different from your own family?


Have you ever seen a church become divided over social or cultural issues?  What were those circumstances?  What might have been done to prevent the conflict?


Can you think of an example of the greatest enemy of “the great” being “the good”?


We see the need for character, focus and people.  Why is this pattern and order important?  Why are we so tempted to allow talent to trump over character?


Character was described as the merger of behavior, faith and brain.  Which of these is the most challenging for you?


As a small congregation we have a lot of general practitioners.  As we grow we will need to become more focused.  What do you think could be your area of focus?